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and at the canadian border environment in case there were those seeking to escape the scene. with respect to fema, i can, when saw the response in boston and a coordinated it was, even given the level of destruction, i would remind the committee that just last november, boston held a massive exercise on how to deal with a mass casualty event. and that exercise was the kind of exercise and exercise is supported by the committee through fema to local areas, and again increasing our ability for response and resilience. we have worked with the fbi and ietotate lct ross e critical infrarurs d oprators, and we've been reaching out to faith-based organizations, community organizations and others who want to know what they can do. we are implementing a number of security measures, both seen and unseen at airports, transit hubs within the maritime environment, and at ports of entry. the coast guard is provided security on the ferries in the boston area. viper teams are doing searches on terms of ground transportation, and the like. and, finally, with respect to the public, we do urge
and at the canadian border environment in case there were those seeking to escape the scene. with respect to fema, i can, when saw the response in boston and a coordinated it was, even given the level of destruction, i would remind the committee that just last november, boston held a massive exercise on how to deal with a mass casualty event. and that exercise was the kind of exercise and exercise is supported by the committee through fema to local areas, and again increasing our ability for...
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a set of rules that is designed to create and environment of law and order. rather than one of chaos. and then make sure that those rules are implemented in an even-handed fashion. so as not to advantage any particular business at the expense of another. that is the best way that government can support that, and when government tries to go beyond that or promises to go beyond that, it usually ends up picking the winners and the losers and it becomes destructive to the free market economy. and to the interests that we're trying tochieve through the freeart economy and through robust, free, civil society. >> francis johnson, strategic planning initiative. we have a challenge before us of gaining morehe ge public, a set of them, who will see the wisdom of what we think is wisdom. we're talking about here and, then, if you will, support legislators and senators for congress who believe the same thing. now, a way to enlarge the circle may be, to start with the endgame. tell some stories, about particular people with names surrogate names, that have been benefited
a set of rules that is designed to create and environment of law and order. rather than one of chaos. and then make sure that those rules are implemented in an even-handed fashion. so as not to advantage any particular business at the expense of another. that is the best way that government can support that, and when government tries to go beyond that or promises to go beyond that, it usually ends up picking the winners and the losers and it becomes destructive to the free market economy. and...
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he portrays it at a human environment, which i think is part of the attraction, and he brings his own personal experiences to that. so i think that's a good place to start, about how you came to write the book, brian, and we'll go from there. >> the villain is over there. my editor. he encouraged me. this book took a long time to jestitae. it began when i visited a former fishing port in northern denmark and there was an artist there who painted the their north sea fishermen and he had painting of a group of fisherman on shore, watching a fishing boat offshore trying to weather a point, and title of the painting was, will he make the point? but the painting itself is memorable for one thing alone, and it is the weather-beaten faces of these fishermen. the sea was literally etched into their faces. and it was then i think i realized tsailors of this sort were people apart and they had knowledge of the ocean that average people don't have. and from there this morphed into the idea of writing a book about early sea-faring, not galleons or christopher columbus or lord nelson or anything l
he portrays it at a human environment, which i think is part of the attraction, and he brings his own personal experiences to that. so i think that's a good place to start, about how you came to write the book, brian, and we'll go from there. >> the villain is over there. my editor. he encouraged me. this book took a long time to jestitae. it began when i visited a former fishing port in northern denmark and there was an artist there who painted the their north sea fishermen and he had...
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custody in a post-9/11 environment. the state department has characterized the same treatment as torture, abuse, or cruel treatment when this techniques were employed by foreign governments. the cia recognized this in an internal review and acknowledged that many of the interrogation techniques that employed were inconsistent with the public policy positions that the united states has taken regarding human rights. the united states is understandably subject to criticism when it criticized another nation for engaging in torture, then justifies the same conduct under national security arguments. there are those that defend the techniques of, like waterboarding, stress and sleep deprivation because there was the office of legal counsel, which issued a decision of proving of their use because they defined them as not being torture. those opinions have since been repudiated by legal experts and the olc itself. and even in it his opinion it relies not only on a very narrow legal definition of torture but also on factual repre
custody in a post-9/11 environment. the state department has characterized the same treatment as torture, abuse, or cruel treatment when this techniques were employed by foreign governments. the cia recognized this in an internal review and acknowledged that many of the interrogation techniques that employed were inconsistent with the public policy positions that the united states has taken regarding human rights. the united states is understandably subject to criticism when it criticized...
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in fact, a very different environment in 1958. when i came to darpa in 1986, now we know we were close to the end of the cold war, but in 1986 we didn't know it was that close and in that environment could even that the world was complex, what we thought about was this monolithic, overwhelming existential threat to the united states. sinuously think about today are much more diverse. [inaudible] >> -- i've been hearing a lot about gps and reliability. [inaudible] he said we have prevented surprises by creating our surprises. can you list any surprises you have created? >> yes, absolutely. then you start the second question. my first example will tie directly to your question about gps. now, in the 80s the gps satellites started becoming widely deployed, at that time we have gps capability, but it meant kerry in an box around on your vehicle premiership. eventually kussmaul announces a heavy pack that you carry. it's still really was not the kind of omnipresent capability that it is today. somehow it got to matter to the point it i
in fact, a very different environment in 1958. when i came to darpa in 1986, now we know we were close to the end of the cold war, but in 1986 we didn't know it was that close and in that environment could even that the world was complex, what we thought about was this monolithic, overwhelming existential threat to the united states. sinuously think about today are much more diverse. [inaudible] >> -- i've been hearing a lot about gps and reliability. [inaudible] he said we have prevented...
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the answer with the weather we enter a hostile environment or permissive environment for an environment of collaboration. we know how the number changes based on the environment. it is a resource intensive task to be sure. >> thank you very much, senator nelson. senator wicker. >> thank you very much. mr. secretary, welcome back from your travels. let me quote from the stars and stripes dated april 16 regarding the sharing of medical records stirs up with tough questions from defense secretary hagel and tuesday were decide on a plan within 30 days to work through the process to seamlessly share medical records between dod and va. mr. secretary, goes on to say you're doing this at the urging of the veterans affairs committee. they ask you to method to transfer capabilities by december 31st. imagine secretary cannot do, your predecessor had instead taken another approach of filesharing rather than a single integrated system from scratch. hey go couldn't record sharing in recent days and start further spend and it has restructured the program oversight. i was in the other body before i cam
the answer with the weather we enter a hostile environment or permissive environment for an environment of collaboration. we know how the number changes based on the environment. it is a resource intensive task to be sure. >> thank you very much, senator nelson. senator wicker. >> thank you very much. mr. secretary, welcome back from your travels. let me quote from the stars and stripes dated april 16 regarding the sharing of medical records stirs up with tough questions from...
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it shows the seriousness of the job but it also shows the environment of the whitehouse. to me that one just stood out of the pack for a cover photo. >> host: do you have a favorite? >> guest: i think the president's trip to africa, his last trip to africa in 2007 to me, that was my favorite trip. i think witnessing the outpouring of love and thankfulness from all of the countries we visited, and this is after in reaction to the pepfar, which all of the aids or global health, that's the president initiated and all of the african people in the country were so thankful. it was wonderful to witness and the color and the culture there and for me it was my first trip to africa. as a black american to go to africa is really neat and i really enjoyed that. >> host: we see in your book a picture of him dancing, and there's a video. were you there? were you present? what was that moment like? >> guest: it was fun, it was fun and the crowd went crazy when he started to dance. he actually -- >> host: did you shoot some photos of that? >> guest: yeah, was very fun. >> host: in the in
it shows the seriousness of the job but it also shows the environment of the whitehouse. to me that one just stood out of the pack for a cover photo. >> host: do you have a favorite? >> guest: i think the president's trip to africa, his last trip to africa in 2007 to me, that was my favorite trip. i think witnessing the outpouring of love and thankfulness from all of the countries we visited, and this is after in reaction to the pepfar, which all of the aids or global health, that's...
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we face a complex and global operational environment characterized by a multitude of actor. the unprecedented array of threat and challenge include the continuing threat from the taliban insurgency in afghanistan, al qaeda and affiliated terrorist organizations in the middle east and africa, terrorist havens in pakistan, the popular upheaval in the aftermath in syria, egypt, and elsewhere in the ear missi development.tained north korea's missile provocation. the growing seriousness of cyberthreat to the defense industrial base, our nation's critical infrastructure, government networks, and the american business community particularly from china and iran. and finally the growth in cha's equipment and military power. all of these place significant demands on the defense intelligence agency and the entire comprise. as stated above, i believe the most prezzing threat facing our country is the threat from cyberattack. the daily occurrence of attack on a damaging an variety level. they are not only persistent and dangerous. the likelihood of damage is real. potentialed aer adversa
we face a complex and global operational environment characterized by a multitude of actor. the unprecedented array of threat and challenge include the continuing threat from the taliban insurgency in afghanistan, al qaeda and affiliated terrorist organizations in the middle east and africa, terrorist havens in pakistan, the popular upheaval in the aftermath in syria, egypt, and elsewhere in the ear missi development.tained north korea's missile provocation. the growing seriousness of...
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custody in the post 9/11 environment the state department is characterized the same treatment as torture, abuse or cruel treatment with the techniques were employed by foreign governments. the cia recognized this in an internal review and acknowledged many of the interrogation techniques were inconsistent with the public policy positions the united states has taken regarding human rights. the united states is understandably subject to criticism when they criticize another nation for engaging in torture and the unjustified same conduct under national security arguments. there are those that defend the techniques of waterboarding, stress positions and sleep deprivation because there was the office of legal counsel which issued a decision of proving of their use because they defined them as not being tortured. those opinions have since been repudiated by legal experts and even if its opinion it relies on a very legal definition of torture but also on factual representations about how the techniques of would be implemented that later proved inaccurate. this is an important context as to how
custody in the post 9/11 environment the state department is characterized the same treatment as torture, abuse or cruel treatment with the techniques were employed by foreign governments. the cia recognized this in an internal review and acknowledged many of the interrogation techniques were inconsistent with the public policy positions the united states has taken regarding human rights. the united states is understandably subject to criticism when they criticize another nation for engaging in...
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number one i think the consumer has really demonstrated incredible wisdom in a challenging economic environment. the question for all of us is how long willho that last that e consumers held up relatively well. i think we alsoly see that in spending and the credit risk -- or formants which have substantially come down verall, they're at close to historical lows. we're performing a50% better than the major bank card issuers. so i think that that demonstrates some view that the consumer health is pretty decent. consumer confidence held up pretty well. but, frankly, david, i've really been of the view not surprisingly that the economic recovery as i look at in the broad scale is going to be relatively slow. i don't have a great deal of confidence that there's going to be any turnaround in the near term. and i think what we've got to hope for is that it >> over the last, certainly over the last four years of this administration part of a long-term trend as i've outlined in the book is using more and more state power to impose a particular worldview called liberalism and i will go into a definition
number one i think the consumer has really demonstrated incredible wisdom in a challenging economic environment. the question for all of us is how long willho that last that e consumers held up relatively well. i think we alsoly see that in spending and the credit risk -- or formants which have substantially come down verall, they're at close to historical lows. we're performing a50% better than the major bank card issuers. so i think that that demonstrates some view that the consumer health is...
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we're emitting less carbon pollution in the environment than we have in nearly 20 years, but we understand this is not enough. we've got to do better, and that's why we've got to pursue an all of the above numbering strategy that includes investing in more biofuels and more fuel efficient vehicles and more solar and wind power and more people going back to work building cars and homes and businesses that are more energy efficient than the ones we've got right now. that's why i've proposed new job-creating investments in science and innovation. and all these young people, as young as they are, they're all going to be going to college, and a lot of them are going to want to continue to pursue tear research and pursue their dreams. and if there is not the research grant pipeline in place, many of them will not have the resources to invent and discover the things that will make us healthier and make us more energy efficient and improve the quality of our lives. so this is not the time to gut investments that keep our businesses on the cutting edge. that keep our economy humming, that improving
we're emitting less carbon pollution in the environment than we have in nearly 20 years, but we understand this is not enough. we've got to do better, and that's why we've got to pursue an all of the above numbering strategy that includes investing in more biofuels and more fuel efficient vehicles and more solar and wind power and more people going back to work building cars and homes and businesses that are more energy efficient than the ones we've got right now. that's why i've proposed new...
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the president said we want to raise taxes on industry so we get less investment and therefore your environment the reciprocally. the third thing that and i think that i would assume that you believe and the president believes and we in the house believe we need a more aever accountable and efficient government. i bring a slide. the picture of jeff neely sitting in hot tub. jeff was a gse employee who hoisted million of taxpayer dollars on conferences. the person back on the payroll making just under $2,000. he got a bonus last year. i haven't seen anything the president's budget that creates a smaller more considerable efficient government. we have a gao report here that identifies tens of dollars of dollar in duplication. i didn't see in the president's budget to take care of that. another area is the part of the stimulus the doa department of energy in a slush nawnd used to invest in things in the result of the organization through the investment. i would like to have an enhance risk to >> are we doubling down on more stimlis type of payment? why do we think it's going work better this time
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the whole idea of the urban environment derailed, but the plans put forward for the park and for the national park. the same state and federal officials of the philadelphians are dealing with for the u.n. proposal were the ones who also were going to sign off on the part. this interesting connections there certainly. >> charlene, just being aware of time is here, but to continue the dialogue. i'd like to thank her again for her presentation. [applause] >> where the conservative book local action conference in washington d.c. with author paul kengor of "the communist." who was frank marshall davis? >> frank marshall davis was born in kansas 1905, died and made you and 87. ended up in chicago and ultimately honolulu and that's where he would meet a young man named barack obama in the 70s. he was introduced by obama's grandfather, stanley dunham. i should back up a little bit. he was african-american. he was a republican from the time of lincoln to fdr. remarkably what so far to the left that during world war ii he joined the communist party. he joined communist party u.s.a. a lot of am
the whole idea of the urban environment derailed, but the plans put forward for the park and for the national park. the same state and federal officials of the philadelphians are dealing with for the u.n. proposal were the ones who also were going to sign off on the part. this interesting connections there certainly. >> charlene, just being aware of time is here, but to continue the dialogue. i'd like to thank her again for her presentation. [applause] >> where the conservative book...
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remember, $4.5 billion is what we spend for a today to to operate in that environment. so safing, too, when in fact you will not go on the street with the exception of package delivery which will be done with dynamic routeing with a lower cost employee allows us to provide that kind of service at a lower cost. the mail processing cost, the transportation cost, network changes, that's all money that can come off the we've also calculated in what we think, you know, is the revenue loss, and we've talked to a lot of of customers to validate that. we think we're on pretty good terms with that. so the two billion is doable. let me clear something else up. people say, well, it's only two out of 20 billion. it is not. if we had it this year, we would break even from an operational standpoint. this year we will lose about $1.7 billion in the operating line. that's revenue minus costs with the exception of worker's comp costs and prefunding. we would actually make money if we made the six to five move at beginning of this year. what happens with the 20 billion, that gap exists w
remember, $4.5 billion is what we spend for a today to to operate in that environment. so safing, too, when in fact you will not go on the street with the exception of package delivery which will be done with dynamic routeing with a lower cost employee allows us to provide that kind of service at a lower cost. the mail processing cost, the transportation cost, network changes, that's all money that can come off the we've also calculated in what we think, you know, is the revenue loss, and we've...
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retailers have been operating in an environment where they have not been required to collect and remitt sales taxes for states where they do not have a physical presence. this legislation would change that almost in an instant. before we enact a new sales tax system we need to take into accounts the costs that will impose on businesses of all sizes and the difficulties those -- these companies will face as they adapt to the new regime. for example, there is the issue of vendor compensation. the streamlined sales and use tax agreement currently includes a provision giving states the opportunity to voluntarily compensate remote sellers -- quote -- "as a measure of good faith"-- unquote for registering to voluntarily collect and remit sales taxes into states where the seller has no physical presence. this is included in the agreement because under current law remote sellers are generally not required to collect and remit the sales tax and they incur a cost when doing so. the marketplace fairness act does not include any provision for compensation of remote sellers. i believe this is someth
retailers have been operating in an environment where they have not been required to collect and remitt sales taxes for states where they do not have a physical presence. this legislation would change that almost in an instant. before we enact a new sales tax system we need to take into accounts the costs that will impose on businesses of all sizes and the difficulties those -- these companies will face as they adapt to the new regime. for example, there is the issue of vendor compensation. the...
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there are more eyes on the issue and environment where they make decisions. it offers opportunity we have taken advantage of. conversely, anyone familiar with the history of war and those abuses and use of aircraft bombing, carpet bombing, involving unintended damage or perhaps intended damage is endemic to the history of warfare and sometimes used by enemies and unfortunately is used by the united states. so we are dealing with a set of questions that has persisted for some time. let me focus to you, colonel mcsally because mr. al-muslimi raises a legitimate issue that somehow there is the appearance, the perception of greater damage and possible missed dates associated with this weaponry, this tool. is that a fair criticism? >> i can't speak specifically about operations in this country, but i can see the capability does exist to make sure we minimize civilian casualties in the process i'm familiar with is one where he made a high-level identification once a target is approved and they met the criteria and geographic location with a variety of sources. agai
there are more eyes on the issue and environment where they make decisions. it offers opportunity we have taken advantage of. conversely, anyone familiar with the history of war and those abuses and use of aircraft bombing, carpet bombing, involving unintended damage or perhaps intended damage is endemic to the history of warfare and sometimes used by enemies and unfortunately is used by the united states. so we are dealing with a set of questions that has persisted for some time. let me focus...
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this year's threat assessment shows how dramatic the world and a threat environment is changing. threats are more interconnected and viral. events which first blush seem local and relevant can quickly set up transnational disruptions that affect u.s. national interest. issuidentifyastatement for the . our statements this year lead with cyber. as more and more state and nonstate actors gain cyber expertise, its importance and reach of the global threat cannot be overstated. this year our discussion and natural resources is also more prominent because she is injured and jog the, climate and competition for natural resources have huge national security implications. many countries important are living with extreme water and food stress that can destabilize governments and trigger conflicts. on the issue of terrorism and the threat from al qaeda and the potential for a massive coordinated attack on the united states may be diminished by the jihad is movement is more diffuse. as the president said on tuesday about the boston marathon bombing we don't know yet whether the attack was pl
this year's threat assessment shows how dramatic the world and a threat environment is changing. threats are more interconnected and viral. events which first blush seem local and relevant can quickly set up transnational disruptions that affect u.s. national interest. issuidentifyastatement for the . our statements this year lead with cyber. as more and more state and nonstate actors gain cyber expertise, its importance and reach of the global threat cannot be overstated. this year our...
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the training of the scientist of canada inform us about the environment [inaudible] so increasingly the arctic corporation has become a fundamental pillar of our 21st century foreign policy. there's no disagreement about that in my country. the parliament passed last year anonymously a policy resolution which defined the icelandic objective in the arctic. so together with the other nordic countries we hope to play a constructive part and evidence of this was that few months ago one of our april servant was the first director general of the secretary of the arctic. >> several currency questions. the icelandic money is coming out of financial turmoil. what would you consider the future of the money? and are you considering any alternative currency for iceland ? >> i think it's a positive indication of how we have all dealt with the financial crisis. i can comment on the national press club only six minutes are left and i get that question. [laughter] of the financial issues. nobody would believe that for a five years ago. without in state of affairs we could perhaps come together again an
the training of the scientist of canada inform us about the environment [inaudible] so increasingly the arctic corporation has become a fundamental pillar of our 21st century foreign policy. there's no disagreement about that in my country. the parliament passed last year anonymously a policy resolution which defined the icelandic objective in the arctic. so together with the other nordic countries we hope to play a constructive part and evidence of this was that few months ago one of our april...
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>> again, not to be a johnny one no, but in this environment, the one thing i would ask for is more latitude in how we take the cut to fit the money with the most important payoff is. with respect to the question you raised, it is an age-old one and intelligence. the approach or try to take in the last two years is try to protect and invest in capabilities that give us the most general coverage. that's why a very strong on sustaining our overhead reconnaissance capability because it covers the earth, denied area or not and similarly, even when times are then, human capability is extremely important. that's when the hu what dr. vickers are io brilliae as much as it is a reshaping, recastg he organization i started in 1992 caughhet t defense humanrvice. better integration with the fbi and the cia. more clandestine case officer's who are worth their weight in gold. the unique capability no one else can render. as they make reductions, we have to focus much much more on quality, quality of investment since are not going to have in numbers. >> one quick question that's come up a number of times.
>> again, not to be a johnny one no, but in this environment, the one thing i would ask for is more latitude in how we take the cut to fit the money with the most important payoff is. with respect to the question you raised, it is an age-old one and intelligence. the approach or try to take in the last two years is try to protect and invest in capabilities that give us the most general coverage. that's why a very strong on sustaining our overhead reconnaissance capability because it...
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it is absolutely the case in an environment that, like the one you have in syria, that proving chemical weapons used can be difficult, but we are engaged in a process of trying to invest gait and verify allegations. >> what are we doing in that area? we know that actually went and took soil samples. what are we doing -- >> well, i'm not going to get into methods we use to gather information or intelligence, but you can be sure that we are utilizing tools we have scrabble to us to invest gait these serious allegations. >> jay? >> yeah? >> the three countries jumping the gun in reaching this determination? >> it's a serious issue. the fact is there were allegations about chemical weapons used that led to the csh calls for investigation by the united nation. we support that effort, and believe that the assad regime's blocking of that effort demonstrates or seems to demonstrate a lack of seriousness on intent when it comes to the original calls on investigation. it's why we work with the allies and partners as well as, you know, losing tooting we -- the tools we have available to us in look
it is absolutely the case in an environment that, like the one you have in syria, that proving chemical weapons used can be difficult, but we are engaged in a process of trying to invest gait and verify allegations. >> what are we doing in that area? we know that actually went and took soil samples. what are we doing -- >> well, i'm not going to get into methods we use to gather information or intelligence, but you can be sure that we are utilizing tools we have scrabble to us to...
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when you have this raymond davis t e the, he worked for black environment, the perfect environment for the conspiracies that a former military officer, former black water employee now working for the cia caught having killed two people on the streets of lahore, and black water, davis, i attended a rally and he was trying to answer something that happened the night before where a number of pakistani troops were killed, and the suspicion was it was his people who killed the pakistani troops and rallied the crowd by saying, it was not me. it was black water, another raymond davis, and the crowd went crazy, those are the terms that focused people's minds in pakistan. >> jay in louisville, kentucky, jay, you're on booktv. >> caller: yes, my belief is that after september 11th, well, india was the first to offer help and collaboration before israel and the united kingdom. it's my belief the only reason pakistan's been help is their fear the u.s. would get closer to india. that's all i have. >> guest: well, it's very interesting -- a very interesting question. india, as you say, was -- jumped
when you have this raymond davis t e the, he worked for black environment, the perfect environment for the conspiracies that a former military officer, former black water employee now working for the cia caught having killed two people on the streets of lahore, and black water, davis, i attended a rally and he was trying to answer something that happened the night before where a number of pakistani troops were killed, and the suspicion was it was his people who killed the pakistani troops and...
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he portrays it as a human environment which i think is part of the attraction and has his own personal experience to that. that is a good place to store how you came to write the book and we will go from there. >> you take a long time to state. in my head when i visited a fishing boat there was an artist there who painted thin norris but those to launch a fishing boat offshore trying to weather the point* but the point was will you make a point*? but it is memorable for one thing was it etch into there fake guests -- focus? >> i think there realized that sailors. >> the columbus caught of sailing the ocean blue or red alone spartacus. what this book says the via nothing to be seen that there is much about this and as to what to do or hash to approach it mix. >> a personal perspective sailing since i was the eight and guided it in the days if we cannot be to over you were orphans who so he was clearing his throat because of gps. ended with a compass and i scare the living hell out of myself. but i got across the atlantic in a sailboat after 24 days and made a landfall on an island 38 fe
he portrays it as a human environment which i think is part of the attraction and has his own personal experience to that. that is a good place to store how you came to write the book and we will go from there. >> you take a long time to state. in my head when i visited a fishing boat there was an artist there who painted thin norris but those to launch a fishing boat offshore trying to weather the point* but the point was will you make a point*? but it is memorable for one thing was it...